What Power do you make on the Koyoto Racing dyno?

MR-EVO · Last edited by MR-EVO on Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:15 am; edited 2 times in total

Heres Some figures we have so far:

MR_EVO = 190KW atw (stg 2) ...[213kw @ Snail Dyno and 214kw a few weeks earlier Stg 1]
999EVO = 169KW atw (stg 1) ...[193kw @ Snail Dyno and 208kw a few weeks earlier]
Vish = 203KW atw (stg 2)
Boosted = 193KW atw (stg 2)
Sti-killer = 140KW atw (stock)

Woopass = 2 bar boost 302KW and 520NM (AMS GT30R)

SeanV = 190KW atw (stg 1)

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MR-EVO · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject:

Congrats to Voodoo:

He made 185.5KW atw on the Snail Dyno this weekend on a conservative Stg1 Tune...

Wink

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SeanV · Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 154 Location: Alberton

Here are my figures on KR's dyno

SeanV = my WRX : 204kw
= my Evo 8 : unknown, still stock atm, will update soon.

SeanV · Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 154 Location: Alberton

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Whoop_ass · Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 27

my figure's if anybody is interested.

car has never been on snails but i reckon the difference between snail's and Kyoto is easy 30kw...

2 bar boost 302KW and 520NM
gonna install the meth kit and get another wastgate spring to hold more boost.

hoping for 320 and 540nm at kyoto at 2.2 bar boost!
should be about 350-360 at snails
this is still with a stock block and head..

Wish me luck Razz

MR-EVO · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:

Good luck Johhny!

Yeah for sure Snail is on averrage about 8%-10% more than what the actual KW should be I rekon... This I believe is because the Wheel KW is sea level corrected. The equipment itself is a proper Hyper Power 4WD unit...

Sherwins 335i made 230KW at Kyoto and 245KW at Snail about a 15KW difference...

Stock Evo's make about 160KW atw on Snail and Stock Scoobies 120-140KW atw...

My Evo 8 made 177KW at Snail and 163KW at Perfect Power

My 9 made on same setup 200KW at Snail and 190KW Kyoto without any changes... Anyway with a very poor launch 3500rpm I ran a 13.1@171 at Tarlton last week... Still klapped the white 335i next to me after starting slightly after him by the end of 2nd gear the race was over...

So I agree it does read a bit higher then Kyoto & PP...

But one thing you must remember is that a Dyno is just a measuring instument - some of them under read some of over read a lot of it has to do with the correction factors and the software on the Dyno as well as the weight of the rollers and setup etc.

Ideally what you want is a wheel KW figure that correlates back to flywheel power obviously drivetrain losses are diffrent on diffrent cars but the rule of thump is a 15-20% Drivetrain loss for FWD cars... AWD cars depending on the Car can be anywhere from 25-40%.

An instrument that under reads is just as bad as an instrument that over reads becoz what you actually want to get to is as close to the truth as possible... think of a speedometer that under reads. Some people find Dyno's that under read an Ego Booster just as much as some find a Dyno that over reads an Ego Boost. (my car made 140kw BUT ON kYOTO!) it is somthing to be proud of - I have seen dynos which create more load allow certain high boost cars to make more power at the wheels because lighter rollers mean less load which means less boost than we run on the road especially on high boost cars...

At the end of the day - I say compare cars the same day on the same dyno...

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MR-EVO · Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject:

SeanV · Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 154 Location: Alberton

Whoop_ass · Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 27

hmmm!

i don't know about that Sal
martin Peters did 262 at kyoto and 295 at snails

I think the higher the power the more the difference increases..

i will go to snails one day for a run and see!

MR-EVO · Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject:

Whoop_ass · Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 27

Well we must arrange one day and go through and see!

340kw is still not enough. Confused

I need 400kw to give tyrone a run ROFL!!! Wink

MR-EVO · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:09 am Post subject:

popadel · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 9

Interesting.

Here i9s some more interesting info. My KR fabricated single scrol 3076R / 38mm Tiel EWG made 303WKW/515Nm at 1,95bar - sels for 36K as a full kit.

My twin scroll (KR desing twin 44mm Tiels ) makde 310/535 at 2bar. - sels for 53K as a full kit.

FP green 247WKW/480Nm at 1,7bar. done lots of track time.

All cars are driven like this all the time so no dyno queens alowed in my place.

I tunned Martins car at 352WKW on my rollers. Hilton worked with em on this one as he is Martins usual tuner. (this is not a track car)

Ive built about 8 Evos so far all making above 230WKW some on FP green and some with much bigger turbos.

My own shop Evo is rated for 1000Hp and will make over 600WKW on my dyno. 2L Engine done, Twin scroll turbo GT4294R just need to install and tune.

I hope to finish Jhonnys car before i go to Dubai for a year. He has the GT4088R and should make 450-460WKW/ 650-750Nm on KR.

I have proven time and agin that these USA mail in flashes are cr@p. For example two evos i did recently - one came in with 178WKW and left with 237WKW. the other cam in with 182WKW and left with 230WKW. Both were promised big numbners and were left duissapointed.

There is no substitute for tuing any car for the lcoal environment and knowing what your doing! Ive tuned in many countries where ive lived and JHB's altitude is the biggest problem you have.

And for interests sake - my ATP 30R kit bolt on cheap junk still made 290WKW on KR. ITs a cheap solution - but you get waht you pay for. the thing leaked in all places and most of the bolts came loose on a regular basis.

The GT 3076R is a versatile turbo that can do a lot in the right configuration. As an example Costa made 292kw/460nm on PP at 1,8bar boost. In the right hands that turbo at that boost should make 350WKW/600nm.

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MR-EVO · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: